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Dr Pippa Malmgren on the blurred lines between politics and entertainment

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Joining Michael today is the economist, entrepreneur and author Dr Pippa Malmgren, and pessimism is not part of her vocabulary. She says: “I may be the most optimistic economist in the market today. I think that we’re going to get a recovery faster and sharper than people are expecting. Money, plus entrepreneurial energy, plus digitalisation, I think we’re going to see the recovery faster and sooner than we thought.”

A former Special Assistant to George W. Bush and the co-founder of H Robotics, an organisation creating drones as tools not toys, she is using her decades of experience analysing policy to analyse the world as it is today. With her book Signals, released in 2016, Pippa told the world how she used everyday signals to see what many others did not – from the financial crash, to Brexit, to Trump – and explained how we could all do the same.

Dr Pippa Malmgren

Dr Pippa Malmgren is an American economist, policy analyst and best-selling author. She served as Special Assistant to the President of the United States, George W. Bush, for Economic Policy on the National Economic Council and is a former member of the U.S. President’s Working Group on Financial Markets. On top of being a Board member for the Department for International Trade, Pippa is the founder of the DRPM Group and co-founder of H Robotics, a robotics company which makes AI-led, commercial-use drones. She has been named a leading Woman in Tech by We Are Tech Women and the top 50 Women in Tech by AccelerateHer.

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